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Je cherche une pepiniere. Je veux acheter des arbres d'olive pour cultivation dans le sud-est d'Angleterre. Si quelqu'un peut me conseiller sur les cultivars appropries et leur transportation en Angleterre ca serait gentil. J'ai l'intention de planter 30 arbres comme essai. Si c'est possible reponder en Anglais, parce-que mon Francais est affreux.

Dear Tahir,
First of all, what is your geographical location in Britain ? I know we're going through a period of global warming, but aren't you being a bit optimistic, wanting to cultivate olive trees in Britain However, what exactly are your objectives :
olives for olive oil ?
table olives ?
There's no problem in finding olive tree suppliers, or in having them delivered, I can help you there.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Regards,

Hi Edy

I'm located in the Sout East of England, in Essex. The site is in the sun all day, facing south, the soil is not too heavy. I want to grow mainly for oil and to start with I'm thinking of maybe 120 trees (I've spoken to some people who think it's viable since my first message).

Irrigation probably won't be necessary, but we have water if necessary.

The reason I'm thinking about it is that garden growers in the UK are starting to get good crops of olives.

Thanks

Tahir

Je me trouve dans le sud-est de l'Angleterre, dans l'Essex. Le site est orienté au sud, et bénéficie d'un ensoleillement toute la journée. Le sol n'est pas trop lourd. Je voudrais cultiver les oliviers surtout pour l'huile, et j'envisage de planter environ 120 arbres (depuis mon premier message j'ai discuté avec pas mal de personnes qui pensent que c'est viable).

L'irrigation ne sera pas nécessaire, normalement, mais nous avons de l'eau en cas de besoin.

Si j'envisage cette culture, c'est parce que certains horticulteurs au Royaume-Uni commençent à avoir de bonnes récoltes d'olives.

Merci,

Answer :

I would advise you to plant only about 15 olive trees, selecting 2 or 3 different varieties as you choose, firstly so that you can be sure of the variety you wish to plant, and secondly to make sure each variety is adapted to the climate. This week-end I will send you several e-mail addresses where you can choose the varieties you wish to plant.
Do you want to plant 1-year old , 2-year old or 3-year old trees ?
Look forward to hearing from you soon...

2 yr old would be good Edy, so you think I'm too optimistic? What are your main concerns; winter cold, rainfall, summer temperatures?

Des arbres de 2 ans seraient bien, Edy. Alors tu penses que je suis trop optimiste ? Quels sont tes soucis principaux : les hivers froids, la pluie, les températures estivales ?

Réponse :

It would be a good idea to consult the documentation in more depth, as it is impossible to describe here what is explained over 600 pages in 2 books, unless you want highly specific details.

There are two very good books: the first, "Identification et caractérisation des variétés d'oliviers en France" is for choosing your variety of olive tree according to the climate, soil, temperature, along with the different tastes, and describing all the varieties found in France.
The second, "L'olivier : Monographe technique..." is more technical, concerning the preparation of the ground and describing the different soils, and the entire life cycle of an olive tree, etc.
You can obtain these two books from this site by selecting "Documentation". Tell me if you have any problems. You will find all the answers to your questions but what concerns me most is the rain and the fog/mist, not so much the winters which are generally milder than some places in France, as olive trees do not like wet soils. Drainage and other precautions may be necessary.

If there is anything in these two books that you find really difficult to understand, we can help you with a little translation here and there.
As far as I'm concerned, nothing is impossible, but you do have to take a certain number of precautions before making any major investments.
I look forward to hearing from you.

C'est très touchant, cette aide aux payx en voie de développement ...............................oléicole
Thanks for Tahir

Gilles Gallois

Many thanks Edy, I will buy the books and let you know what happens.

Pour l'amour de l'olivier

Paysanne enracinée dans l'arrière-pays niçois, loin du béton de la Côte d'Azur, sur l'autre face du miroir aux alouettes, je vous invite à une balade méditerranéenne, de restanques en garrigues, dans un décor grandiose et sauvage où l'olivier est roi.

L'olivier est un arbre magique, qui peut passer d'un état à un autre selon le cours du temps, se transformant au rythme de l'histoire, tantôt réduit à l'état de souche latente, tantôt frêle pousse étouffée par les ronces, parfois hurlant de souffrance sous la torture des tronçonneuses, ou encore magnifique, son feuillage luxuriant agitant des milliers de perles scintillantes. Mais, toujours, éternel, défiant les siècles, indifférent à la mort.

Il est l'intermédiaire entre la terre et l'huile pure sacrée.

Cet arbre a bouleversé mon existence lorsque je me suis engagée à ses côtés dans une folle aventure.

Comme lui, avec lui, j'ai souffert, lutté, rebondi.

Vivre dans son ombre m'a appris à aimer et m'a permis d'appréhender ma propre éternité en cheminant vers la sagesse et la paix€¦

Jacqueline Bellino

Bonsoir Mr gallois
devant une telle entrée en matière, j'ai du mal a traduire Mme Jaqueline Bellino certains termes, mais pas impossible.
Je vous trouvez un peu moqueur dans votre entrée en matière, mais les aventures ne vous font pas peur !

si j"ai bien compris le message "M. Tahir Sharif" peut compter sur vous pour le matériel "adolive.com"

Par avance merci
Il nous manque un pépiniériste agrées
de ce coté la vous étés aussi bien placé, peut'on compter sur vous le cas échéant:?:
a bientôt

Chère Mme Bellino,
Vous parlez fort bien de l'olivier, mais où diable avez vous pu vous protéger du béton de la côte d'azur (tant souhaité par les habitants de la région d'ailleurs....qui semble préféré l'euro que l'olive) dans l'arrière pays nicois??

Now for the olives trees in England of Mr Tahir Sharif..even in the South East, I do think the major problem will be the humidity and the quantity of rain, certainly not the heat in summer. I know olive trees are now very fashionable in London's gardens, but when I see these trees, I do feel very sad for them.
I have some friends who have a house in the Gers which is close to Toulouse in the SW of France, very very hot summers, cold winters which is fine but a lot of rain in spring and autumn. The olives trees they have planted are OK but have almost no flowers and no olives...
By the way I live in UK (London) for now 17 years but grow olive trees in the south of france...
All the best

Dear Mr. Sharif,

I fully agree with Mr. Tapie.
If you check the climatic conditions required for growing olives, you will see that they should be of mediterranean type. Growing olives requires long, sunny, hot and mostly dry summers, if possible with a concentration of precipitations in the colder season. I think the major problem won't be winter cold, as you have mostly mild winters in UK and in many cases less frost days than in wide parts of inner Provence (where olive trees are grown, great quality fruits are harvested and outstanding oils are made).
Regarding the lack of sunshine and the high hunidity, I think that olive trees can only be planted for decoration purposes in UK.

best regards

Thanks guys, we shall see

Bonsoir Tahir avec l'accord de Jacqueline Bellino

For the love of olive trees

As a countrywoman deeply rooted in the Nice hinterland, far from the concrete jungle of the French Riviera, on the other side of this Utopian land, I invite you to come with me on a Mediterranean tour, from terraced hillsides to "garrigues", in this imposing and wild scenery where olive trees rule supreme.

Olive trees are magical, capable of changing their appearance according to the weather, undergoing transformations in pace with history, sometimes reduced to the state of a latent stub, sometimes a fragile shoot choked by brambles, sometime crying out with pain under the torture of chain-saws, or magnificent, with lush foliage stirring thousands of glittering pearls. But still eternal, defying the centuries, indifferent to death.

The olive tree is the intermediary between the earth and the sacred pure oil.

My entire life was changed when I became involved with this tree in a mad adventure.

Like the olive tree, I suffered, fought and came back again.

Living in the shadow of this tree has taught me to love, and given me an understanding of my own immortality as I follow the path towards wisdom and peace €¦

Jacqueline Bellino

a bientot

Maybe the same will happen to me?